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Gabe The Ape's avatar

This was not on my radar so it is interesting to learn about. I also appreciate Dr. Cinnamon, who has an amazing name for someone in the food industry btw, choosing to work on chicken welfare and his compassion for them. I'm sympathetic to NextGen's solution in principle, but I'm very skeptical that about the arguments that it won't be considered "non-gmo" based on the arguments given.

Consumer Adoption Skepticism (my half baked thoughts)

"Although the sterile surrogate line is technically genetically modified, their offspring, the actual broilers, don’t share any of their surrogate parents’ genetics, meaning that the resulting meat can still be considered non-GMO." I would love to hear the Non-GMO Project's opinion whether they considered it non-GMO, and assume they wouldn't be as generous.

I think the fears of rejection due to GMO are commonly somewhat overstated. Evidence of this is the vast amount of GMO-modified foods in Walmart where more Americans than not shop for groceries. So it is possible to produce GMO food and get consumer buy-in, though I believe this is a kind of passive buy-in. I could see that possible for NextGen given that is not directly GMO.

However, I become more skeptical when I remember AguAdvantage and what a failure that was from a consumer adoption point of view. 20 years to get regulatory approval, and then supermarkets drop them 3 years after they are approved to sell openly. So the GMOs in Walmart might be a bad comparative class since they are all plants and not meat, the GMO versions of the latter may have a greater likelihood of giving people the ick.

I become even more skeptical by how nerdy and in the weeds the distinction that needs to be made to not consider these chickens GMOs. I could easily imagine a future skeptical public saying something like, "It came out of a GMO chicken therefore it is GMO, duh," even though that is false.

From my pov, NextGen has already innovated in poultry genetics, but will need to the equivalent in GMO branding and PR, which they have not gestured towards, to be successful.

And as Dr. Cinnamon notes poultry is likely to grow in Africa and India as they become richer -- drastically growing number of farmed chickens. Those regions of the world are very anti-GMO -- see this article by the Genetic Literacy Project: https://geneticliteracyproject.org/gmo-faq/where-are-gmo-crops-and-animals-approved-and-banned/

So it seems unlikely to me NextGen will help with that problem, and will only be able to possibly help in the Americas, which is a still a huge region.

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These just not my half baked thoughts and I could be missing something. If this kind of GMO-editing tech can be used in this way and be accepted by consumers, it would open up new welfare possibilities not just for farmed chickens, but other animals, like shrimp.

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Sharang Phadke's avatar

Thanks for sharing, fascinating

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